https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/criminal-state-jacques-pauw-explains-why-the-anc-has-to-be-voted-out-in-2024-20221221
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12/21/22 at 3:01pm
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Author Jacques Pauw was in conversation with News24's assistant editor for investigations Pieter du Toit at the Cape Town Press Club on Wednesday.
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